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	<title>Comments on: Automatic Web Site &#8211; Jon Leger Case Study</title>
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		<title>By: Mark Mason</title>
		<link>http://www.masonworld.com/internet-marketing/automatic-web-site-jon-leger-case-study/comment-page-1/#comment-5468</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that is the kind of thing that this guy is claiming to teach (how to do that).  http://www.masonworld.com/internet-marketing/how-to-outsource/

I have not tried hiring a writer in that range....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that is the kind of thing that this guy is claiming to teach (how to do that).  <a href="http://www.masonworld.com/internet-marketing/how-to-outsource/" rel="nofollow">http://www.masonworld.com/internet-marketing/how-to-outsource/</a></p>
<p>I have not tried hiring a writer in that range&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike @ BANS Today</title>
		<link>http://www.masonworld.com/internet-marketing/automatic-web-site-jon-leger-case-study/comment-page-1/#comment-5467</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike @ BANS Today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone care to tell me where I can find a professional writer for $800 per month?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone care to tell me where I can find a professional writer for $800 per month?</p>
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		<title>By: Mikael @ RetireRichRoadmap</title>
		<link>http://www.masonworld.com/internet-marketing/automatic-web-site-jon-leger-case-study/comment-page-1/#comment-5466</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikael @ RetireRichRoadmap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re right that your calculation might be a bit on the negative site ;) If you were to hire someone to do this for you (like a full time writer) you would surely be able to get the costs for a site down quite a bit.

I would imagine that if you spent the time to do the KW research, the domain registration, the wp install and instructing the writer it would take you about 3 hours or so (again this can even be automated a great deal). The writer could spend 8 hours writing the content as well as post it and you would have a site created per day.

A writer would cost you e.g. $800 per month and in that time they would be able to produce +20 sites. Without tools, domain registrations etc. you would still be in the negatives. But in month 10 you would have 200 sites but still only be paying the writer $800 per month and thereby leave a nice profit for you to enjoy.

But doing this would naturally require that you had some money to invest upfront.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right that your calculation might be a bit on the negative site <img src='http://www.masonworld.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  If you were to hire someone to do this for you (like a full time writer) you would surely be able to get the costs for a site down quite a bit.</p>
<p>I would imagine that if you spent the time to do the KW research, the domain registration, the wp install and instructing the writer it would take you about 3 hours or so (again this can even be automated a great deal). The writer could spend 8 hours writing the content as well as post it and you would have a site created per day.</p>
<p>A writer would cost you e.g. $800 per month and in that time they would be able to produce +20 sites. Without tools, domain registrations etc. you would still be in the negatives. But in month 10 you would have 200 sites but still only be paying the writer $800 per month and thereby leave a nice profit for you to enjoy.</p>
<p>But doing this would naturally require that you had some money to invest upfront.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Mason</title>
		<link>http://www.masonworld.com/internet-marketing/automatic-web-site-jon-leger-case-study/comment-page-1/#comment-5465</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I expect to spend about an hour on keyword research and a hour turning up the new site (registering a domain name and installing WP, etc).  The latter could be outsourced for about $20, and the domain name costs $10.

There there is the matter of content creation.  Let&#039;s say articles take 1 hour each (or can be outsourced for $10/hour).

So it&#039;s about a 1.5 day investment in time plus the cost of the domain name -- let&#039;s say we outsourced it and call it $240.  It costs me less, but let&#039;s just use that number.   That&#039;s $20/month in the first year.

As for the tools, I use them across many sites.  But let&#039;s say you only have 10 sites and you are using $100/month in Leger tools.  That&#039;s $10/month.  My cost is much less because of beta pricing and more sites.

So -- if you spend $20/month on setup and $10/month on tool, the site needs to make $30 per month to be profitable.

Of course, you can put in your own numbers, but let&#039;s say $30/month.  To break even, I need $1/day.

My plan here is an AdSense site, so let&#039;s say I can get $0.50 per click.  I think I can get more, but let&#039;s use $.50.  To break even, I need 2 clicks per day.  

I plan to use an AdSense optimized theme, so I am expecting a 10% CTR -- but lets say I only get 5%.  I need 40 visitors per day to get 2 clicks.

So, the question is, doing no other promotion, can I get 40 visitors per day to this site....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I expect to spend about an hour on keyword research and a hour turning up the new site (registering a domain name and installing WP, etc).  The latter could be outsourced for about $20, and the domain name costs $10.</p>
<p>There there is the matter of content creation.  Let&#8217;s say articles take 1 hour each (or can be outsourced for $10/hour).</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s about a 1.5 day investment in time plus the cost of the domain name &#8212; let&#8217;s say we outsourced it and call it $240.  It costs me less, but let&#8217;s just use that number.   That&#8217;s $20/month in the first year.</p>
<p>As for the tools, I use them across many sites.  But let&#8217;s say you only have 10 sites and you are using $100/month in Leger tools.  That&#8217;s $10/month.  My cost is much less because of beta pricing and more sites.</p>
<p>So &#8212; if you spend $20/month on setup and $10/month on tool, the site needs to make $30 per month to be profitable.</p>
<p>Of course, you can put in your own numbers, but let&#8217;s say $30/month.  To break even, I need $1/day.</p>
<p>My plan here is an AdSense site, so let&#8217;s say I can get $0.50 per click.  I think I can get more, but let&#8217;s use $.50.  To break even, I need 2 clicks per day.  </p>
<p>I plan to use an AdSense optimized theme, so I am expecting a 10% CTR &#8212; but lets say I only get 5%.  I need 40 visitors per day to get 2 clicks.</p>
<p>So, the question is, doing no other promotion, can I get 40 visitors per day to this site&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikael @ RetireRichRoadmap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikael @ RetireRichRoadmap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, I am a sucker for case studies but one thing that comes to mind when reading your expectations is whether it&#039;ll be worth the effort? How much time are you expecting to put into this (in total)?

Secondly I assume that you&#039;re not taking the cost of Leger&#039;s programs into account since you already own them, right?

If however this could be outsourced to someone that will cost you only $4-500 a month and this person could do one site per day that could be a very interesting concept...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, I am a sucker for case studies but one thing that comes to mind when reading your expectations is whether it&#8217;ll be worth the effort? How much time are you expecting to put into this (in total)?</p>
<p>Secondly I assume that you&#8217;re not taking the cost of Leger&#8217;s programs into account since you already own them, right?</p>
<p>If however this could be outsourced to someone that will cost you only $4-500 a month and this person could do one site per day that could be a very interesting concept&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Mason</title>
		<link>http://www.masonworld.com/internet-marketing/automatic-web-site-jon-leger-case-study/comment-page-1/#comment-5443</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I totally agree that they are not good for producing finished articles.  What I use them for is &quot;research&quot;.  I run the program (like IAW or AA) and get 3 or 4 ideas for articles (or article points) and the rewrite parts of the text as articles.  Saves me a ton of time on topics that I am less familiar with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I totally agree that they are not good for producing finished articles.  What I use them for is &#8220;research&#8221;.  I run the program (like IAW or AA) and get 3 or 4 ideas for articles (or article points) and the rewrite parts of the text as articles.  Saves me a ton of time on topics that I am less familiar with.</p>
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		<title>By: tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 02:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have experimented with article producing products and to be honest, the content produced is just horrible.  Most of it is just scraped bit by bit from other related keyword sites without regard for syntax or fluency.  Paragraphs, to be generous, are Frankensteins of words and largely unrelated phrases.

The spinners&#039; capabilities are also just about worthless as the output is far from legible, again lacking proper syntax or readability.   I would guess that your reader retention will be extremely zilch and the few dollars that you will make will be reliant on a steady stream of unique traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have experimented with article producing products and to be honest, the content produced is just horrible.  Most of it is just scraped bit by bit from other related keyword sites without regard for syntax or fluency.  Paragraphs, to be generous, are Frankensteins of words and largely unrelated phrases.</p>
<p>The spinners&#8217; capabilities are also just about worthless as the output is far from legible, again lacking proper syntax or readability.   I would guess that your reader retention will be extremely zilch and the few dollars that you will make will be reliant on a steady stream of unique traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: garminnuvi</title>
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		<dc:creator>garminnuvi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how long it can alive? I ever use some automation post content but it easily deindex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how long it can alive? I ever use some automation post content but it easily deindex</p>
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		<title>By: Allyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one more thing: and can you control the niches your articles are sent too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one more thing: and can you control the niches your articles are sent too?</p>
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		<title>By: Allyn</title>
		<link>http://www.masonworld.com/internet-marketing/automatic-web-site-jon-leger-case-study/comment-page-1/#comment-5393</link>
		<dc:creator>Allyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark--the one way link thing: is that $47 one time or $47 per month? Also, are the blogs actually indexed well with some PR or are they all PR0?
AL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark&#8211;the one way link thing: is that $47 one time or $47 per month? Also, are the blogs actually indexed well with some PR or are they all PR0?<br />
AL</p>
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		<title>By: shane @making money blogging</title>
		<link>http://www.masonworld.com/internet-marketing/automatic-web-site-jon-leger-case-study/comment-page-1/#comment-5386</link>
		<dc:creator>shane @making money blogging</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mark, thats an interesting product test. Lots of claims now it&#039;ll be good to see if they stand they stand up in the lab. And of course the the biggest metric will be MONEY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mark, thats an interesting product test. Lots of claims now it&#8217;ll be good to see if they stand they stand up in the lab. And of course the the biggest metric will be MONEY</p>
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		<title>By: Normal Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.masonworld.com/internet-marketing/automatic-web-site-jon-leger-case-study/comment-page-1/#comment-5381</link>
		<dc:creator>Normal Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah man, I like this stuff. It&#039;s fun.

I&#039;ll be looking to see whatsup, especially with that 1waylinks thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah man, I like this stuff. It&#8217;s fun.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be looking to see whatsup, especially with that 1waylinks thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Easton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Easton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count me in...right up my ally especially since i just purchased your Niche wp templates. 

Paul

PS: Could you point me to the person company that made them ,as i am looking to make some of my own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me in&#8230;right up my ally especially since i just purchased your Niche wp templates. </p>
<p>Paul</p>
<p>PS: Could you point me to the person company that made them ,as i am looking to make some of my own.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent F</title>
		<link>http://www.masonworld.com/internet-marketing/automatic-web-site-jon-leger-case-study/comment-page-1/#comment-5367</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, wow, I never knew.... 
&quot;Mr. Lay-shay how do you spell your name?&quot; 
&quot;Lay-shay -- L,e,g,e,r - Lay-shay&quot;.

I love Louisiana - just love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, wow, I never knew&#8230;.<br />
&#8220;Mr. Lay-shay how do you spell your name?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Lay-shay &#8212; L,e,g,e,r &#8211; Lay-shay&#8221;.</p>
<p>I love Louisiana &#8211; just love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent F</title>
		<link>http://www.masonworld.com/internet-marketing/automatic-web-site-jon-leger-case-study/comment-page-1/#comment-5366</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m running a test right now on original content vs. syndicated content.  Original content is winning hands down, but, boy, I bet there are some variables in there that might render the results moot.  

I too will be interested to see how this fares Mark.  Out of all the products listed, none of which I own, the most intriguing is Instant Article Wizard Pro.  That is one mean machine if it does half of what JL says.  Use the Spinner and you&#039;re off to the races with solid content.  The linking is just a mystery as to how it really works - which leads me to label it pricey.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m running a test right now on original content vs. syndicated content.  Original content is winning hands down, but, boy, I bet there are some variables in there that might render the results moot.  </p>
<p>I too will be interested to see how this fares Mark.  Out of all the products listed, none of which I own, the most intriguing is Instant Article Wizard Pro.  That is one mean machine if it does half of what JL says.  Use the Spinner and you&#8217;re off to the races with solid content.  The linking is just a mystery as to how it really works &#8211; which leads me to label it pricey.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.masonworld.com/internet-marketing/automatic-web-site-jon-leger-case-study/comment-page-1/#comment-5365</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now this I like!  Curious to see how it turns out.  In the meantime I am going to scour your site for more information on some of the tools listed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now this I like!  Curious to see how it turns out.  In the meantime I am going to scour your site for more information on some of the tools listed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Higgins</title>
		<link>http://www.masonworld.com/internet-marketing/automatic-web-site-jon-leger-case-study/comment-page-1/#comment-5364</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Higgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

I&#039;m watching with great interest. I&#039;m working on a case study of my own. I&#039;ll post about it at my blog and let you know when it&#039;s up. It&#039;s similar to yours but using PLR material. I want to see how far I can get with dupe content.

Jonathan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m watching with great interest. I&#8217;m working on a case study of my own. I&#8217;ll post about it at my blog and let you know when it&#8217;s up. It&#8217;s similar to yours but using PLR material. I want to see how far I can get with dupe content.</p>
<p>Jonathan</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Mason</title>
		<link>http://www.masonworld.com/internet-marketing/automatic-web-site-jon-leger-case-study/comment-page-1/#comment-5363</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Charles.  I agree that results like these take time -- especially since all of these backlinks need to be &quot;discovered&quot; by Google.  It will be very interesting to see what happens here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Charles.  I agree that results like these take time &#8212; especially since all of these backlinks need to be &#8220;discovered&#8221; by Google.  It will be very interesting to see what happens here.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Mason</title>
		<link>http://www.masonworld.com/internet-marketing/automatic-web-site-jon-leger-case-study/comment-page-1/#comment-5362</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Joey -- I will keep you posted!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Joey &#8212; I will keep you posted!</p>
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		<title>By: charles marriage</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles marriage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s quite a challenge ! I&#039;ve got too little time to devote to internet marketing (I&#039;m trying to keep up with it all because I know that it will become important to me, financially) and I would love to know whether you will keep any timings of how long everything takes.

In addition, I would bet that you don&#039;t see the full results of your efforts for quite a little while. I do SEO for other people and for my own sites and am surprised, after having long given up on a site, how well I did !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s quite a challenge ! I&#8217;ve got too little time to devote to internet marketing (I&#8217;m trying to keep up with it all because I know that it will become important to me, financially) and I would love to know whether you will keep any timings of how long everything takes.</p>
<p>In addition, I would bet that you don&#8217;t see the full results of your efforts for quite a little while. I do SEO for other people and for my own sites and am surprised, after having long given up on a site, how well I did !</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very interested in this kind of stuff. I like the way you have planned this one out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very interested in this kind of stuff. I like the way you have planned this one out.</p>
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